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	Posted:	May 18, 2011-2:32 PM
	By:	Prospero(Member)

looks like 500 people will be getting PREDATOR 2 Expanded

http://www.elitesoundtracks.com/coming_soon/predator_2_2cd_expanded_score_limited_500_alan_silvestri_P825.html

i've never heard of this company nor am i a huge fan of this score so i can pass on it : )

I've never heard of the company before; I am a fan of the score.

My gut tells me this isn't legit; I can't imagine Varese giving this up, and I don't think an obscure company (which looks more like a store) would be the ones to get the rights (I'd think one of the other labels would get it first).

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	Posted:	May 18, 2011-2:43 PM
	By:	Julian K(Member)

I'm sure it's as legitimate as the two-disc version of Avatar they're selling.


	Posted:	May 18, 2011-3:27 PM
	By:	Francis(Member)

That is an obvious boot; the artwork is done by a 4th grader; I'm willing to bet this is a dvd channels rip at most and even if they got it sound fx free, you'll still have an inferior mix to a genuinely produced album. I hope this one is amongst the batch next monday, just to f*** up these guys' scam

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I had to LOL at the "priority purchase for the serious movie score fanatic" line.

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	Posted:	May 18, 2011-3:56 PM
	By:	Tom Servo(Member)

And they list 1987 as the release date for PREDATOR 2? They can't even get its actual year of release correct? Plus, I hate their condemning of the Varese album, which is a solid 45 minutes of the best highlights from the film, not "a watered down compilation" in the slightest, as they describe. Whatever.


	Posted:	May 18, 2011-4:40 PM
	By:	Thgil(Member)

I like the score enough, but a lot of it is rehashed from the original. I can see why that which was left off the album was. Though the new theme based on the danger motive was quite a terrific addition to the Predator soundscape. It makes one wonder what Silvestri would have done had he not been scoring that pile of crap A-Team movie when he could have been doing Predators....

Bring on expanded Judge Dredd and The Long Kiss Goodnight instead!!!

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	Posted:	May 18, 2011-5:29 PM
	By:	David Sones (Allardyce)(Member)

If it's factually a boot, then forget about it and let's not dignify it by giving even a sliver of acknowledgment to it here.


	Posted:	May 18, 2011-10:23 PM
	By:	Michael24(Member)

It makes one wonder what Silvestri would have done had he not been scoring that pile of crap A-Team movie when he could have been doing Predators....

Out of those two films, I'm glad Silvestri scored the one I was interested in. I would not trade one for the either.

That said, I would happily buy an expanded Predator 2.


	Posted:	May 19, 2011-1:33 AM
	By:	HudsonHawk(Member)

PREDATOR 2 is a much more interesting score than the original, IMHO. I would love to see (hear) more of it available. Same goes for JUDGE DREDD (big time!) and THE MUMMY RETURNS.

Looks like a total bootleg!


	Posted:	May 19, 2011-1:41 AM
	By:	HudsonHawk(Member)

Poorly mixed, alternate cues, shitty presentation.

'Watered down' is too good.

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	Posted:	May 19, 2011-7:54 AM
	By:	Tester(Member)

That is an obvious boot; the artwork is done by a 4th grader;

either that or it's a Perseverance release


	Posted:	Jun 21, 2011-8:07 PM
	By:	HudsonHawk(Member)

An unused, alternate cue. Maybe there's enough to make 2 CDs.

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	Posted:	Jun 21, 2011-8:58 PM
	By:	LeHah(Member)

either that or it's a Perseverance release

Yes, thats your speed, isn't it? So slow you're in reverse.


	Posted:	Sep 3, 2011-9:47 AM
	By:	Thgil(Member)

But an expanded, chronological CD would be:

1. Main Title (02:42)
2. El Scorpio (02:39)
3. First Carnage (02.36)
4. Swinging Rude Boys (02:35)
5. Voodoo Posse Massacre (??:??)
6. The Penthouse (??:??)
7. Danny Gets It (??:??) -Film and 1990 CD version are completely different.
8. Truly Dead (04:54)
9. Rest in Pieces (01:30)
10. Subway Carnage (??:??)
11. Tunnel Chase (??:??)-Shortened for the 1990 CD
12. Slaughterhouse Fight (??:??)
13. Surgery (??:??)
14. Dem Bones (04:26)
15. Predators (??:??)
16. End Title (08:45)

I saw this brought up the other day and am shocked that I (along with everyone else) forgot about the cue which would really come second in a complete release. Remember the piece for when Harrigan charges toward the gang members in his car? Remember that? It would be numero dos.

In fact, the opening of the above link sounds fairly similar to that cue, with the statement of the five notes from the main theme and all. It lost me when it went into the theme Silvestri wrote for the second film based on his four note danger motive. I'd be really interested in what else might have been recorded. That's saying something for me. I typically don't like alternates. I guess this is different because I really am hungry for more Silvestri-written Predator material.

And the fact that track four was mis-titled "Truly Dead" on the Varese album has always annoyed me...

So, without any further adieu:

1. Main Title (02:42)
2. Hostage Rescue (or "Hey A$$holes!") (??:??)
3. El Scorpio (02:39)
4. First Carnage (02.36)
5. Swinging Rude Boys (02:35)
6. Voodoo Posse Massacre (??:??)
7. The Penthouse (??:??)
8. Danny Gets It (??:??) -Film and 1990 CD version are completely different.
9. Truly Dread (04:54)
10. Rest in Pieces (01:30)
11. Subway Carnage (??:??)
12. Tunnel Chase (??:??)-Shortened for the 1990 CD
13. This is History (Don't know the exact length)
14. Slaughterhouse Fight (??:??)
15. Surgery (??:??)
16. Dem Bones (04:26)
17. Predators (??:??)
18. End Title (08:45)

My two cents.

[Post edited to reflect the existence of "This is History" in the tracklist. How in the name of Silvestri did we both forget this?!?]

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	Posted:	Sep 3, 2011-10:18 AM
	By:	BlindDoc(Member)

Guys - 100% definitely a bootleg - so move along ;-)

The company releasing these shitty excuses for CDs is "Cimmerian Records" (remember Conan...?). They also did "The Thing", which any kid could have mastered or even indexed in a better way.

Remember that Lukas rightly banned a user (probably the guy behind this "label") for advertising the Conan "release".

Don't buy their CDs, awfully produced, cheap rear rips, badly indexed, wrongly titled and cheaply printed.

JFYI.

Best,
Burnie


	Posted:	Sep 3, 2011-12:52 PM
	By:	Shock-Wave(Member)

Hi folks I finished watching Pred 2 a while ago. I just want to let you all know that I am most like be off a few seconds here and there. This is due to the SFX, and I couldn't really hear some of the music that would fad in and/or out.

So I believe the entire score runs around a little over 76 minutes from the film.

As Ka-razyfilmscorefan confirmed a couple of the previous Varese tracks were edited and these selections were slightly longer in the film.

Thanks everyone. Fingers crossed for a DX Ed.


	Posted:	Sep 3, 2011-2:06 PM
	By:	merlyn(Member)

There are loads of scores that have not seen the light of day, that need a release before any consideration is made to this partly available score.

Lyn


	Posted:	Sep 3, 2011-5:01 PM
	By:	HudsonHawk(Member)

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Looks like there are two different covers.


	Posted:	Sep 3, 2011-6:04 PM
	By:	TerraEpon(Member)

Guys - 100% definitely a bootleg - so move along ;-)

Look at the time stamps ont he majority of the thread.


	Posted:	Jun 11, 2014-10:07 AM
	By:	Chris Avis(Member)

There's going to be some very happy soundtrack fans in the near future. The mastering firm that did the Abyss has indicated that a new release of Predator 2 is in the pipeline. Perhaps in the next Varese Club?

Also exciting that a new release of Enter the Dragon may be coming

The original news was broken over at jwfan.net per this link:

http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?s=c4c3a996eb5d36f492f2f3230398ed0c&showtopic=24430

Chris